Mortgage Servicing Fraud
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Hey Group,

Need help!  I've got an original documents issue and need some assistance.  I have read in many areas where there is no debt unless the original signed in ink note is produced. 

Problem.  Where exactly can I find the specific law that states this?

Also, Article 3 Negotiable Instruments.  a, b, c

Anyone have case law that 3 - c has been used regarding interest?

Please email me with your help or thoughts, crunch time for me.

Appreciate any assistance ASAP.

Thanks,
Bob




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Another thought,

Assignments, or the lack of.  I've had no other assignment since the original Deed of Trust.  Thoughts or direction.

Thanks,
Bob (Again)
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Anonymous
Courts routinely accept a lost-note affidavit in place of the originals.

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Diane (LADY DI)
Hi Bob glad to see you are still in the fight.

If I recall correctly Nye Lavalle has posted many times about the issue of lost notes and what it is we can and should do. You could try doing a search on his name here at the forum to find them.
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Hi Bob found it and pasting it here.

Nye Lavalle's post was from 2/11/05 with a comment from Moose. Hope this helps fill in some of those blanks.


IMPORTANT LEGAL DEFENSE POST FOR YOU & YOUR LAWYERS -- TAKE NOTE & ASSERT THESE DEFENSES IF ORGINAL NOTE IS NOT PRODUCED!!!!! MUST READ!!!!!

 

2/11/05 at 08:49 AM Nye LaValle

 

 

I became aware of this scam in our own case when I demanded the note and was willing to pay off my family's note in 1994. A case in San Antonio, a man went to court on a mortgage suit and as was reported in the WSJ, the bank suing him was not the owner and holder of the note. This was in the early 90s. Since then, Mortgage Servicers and those in the industry have created an elaborate fraud and scheme to cook their books; screw you, then hide who did what they did to you.

IN EVERY CASE YOU ARE IN, DEMAND AND I REPEAT DEMAND PRESENTATION OF THE ORIGINAL NOTE YOU SIGNED IN INK THAT HAS YOUR FINGERTIPS ON IT. NO COPIES OR CERTIFIED COPIES ARE ACCEPTABLE AND YOU ONLY NEED TO INSPECT AND COPY AT THE OFFICE OF THE ATTY. OR AT THE DOCUMENT CUSTODIAN'S LOCATION THE NOTE BY YOU OR YOUR AGENT OR ATTY!!!!.

THIS SHOULD TAKE NO LESS THAT 2 DAYS TO DO VIA FEDEX AND OFFER TO PAY FOR THE FEDEX CHARGE FROM THE CUSTODIAN TO THE LOCATION OF YOUR SUIT OR FORECLOSURE. I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH EVIDENCE, TAPES AND PROCEDURE MANUALS ON HOW THESE NOTES ARE SAFEGUARDED AND STORED.

IF THEY REFUSE TO PRODUCE THE ORIGINAL NOTE, THEN YOU HAVE A BIG BIG RED FLAG AND THAT MUST BE THE VERY FIRST OBJECT OF YOUR LAWYER'S ATTACK!!!!

READ ON.....

 

 

STOPPING FORECLOSURE

To recover on a promissory note, the plaintiff must prove: (1) the existence of the note in question; (2) that the party sued signed the note; (3) that the plaintiff is the owner or holder of the note in due course; and (4) that a certain balance is due and owing on the note.


(1) the existence of the note in question

1) If the "ORIGINAL" note you signed in ink that contains your signature is claimed to be lost, stolen, missing and/or destroyed, then you need to notify me and also put on affirmative defenses that:

a) the "named" Plaintiff is not the 'holder in due course" of the note and only an agent or nominee for the true beneficial owners and holders in due course;

b) there may be fraud upon the court in that the named Plaintiff may not have ANY interest to the note and that the supposedly lost note is not lost, but may have been intentionally destroyed due to missing assignments on the note which may have made it void and a legal nullity, thus they have expoliated key and vital evidence;

c) there is no proof that the named Plaintiff ever held the note or took possession of the note and thus has no claim or right to bringing about the foreclosure;

d) there is no proof, without the note, that a proper chain of assignments took place and that the lien positions were properly perfected;

e) other unnamed and disclosed real parties in interest may have a claim to the note and be the rightful beneficial owners to the note and must be identified and brought before the court;

f) there may be several unnamed and disclosed real parties in interest may have a claim to the note and be the rightful beneficial owners of the note;


(2) that the party sued signed the note


2) If the "ORIGINAL" note you signed in ink that contains your signature is claimed to be lost, stolen, missing and/or destroyed, then you need to notify me and also put on affirmative defenses that:


a) the note in question is not the note you signed and executed in ink and only the one you signed in ink that presumably contains your fingerprints can be relied upon by your handwriting analysis expert;

b) in an electronic age, it is a simple matter to place someone's signature or image upon a document and that it is very difficult to imagine such a valuable negotiable instrument being lost or missing without a nefarious motive.


(3) that the plaintiff is the owner or holder of the note in due course;

3) If the "ORIGINAL" note you signed in ink that contains your signature is claimed to be lost, stolen, missing and/or destroyed, then you need to notify me and also put on affirmative defenses that:

a) the mortgage industry, investors, and GSE's such as Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and FHLBs etc. have a requirement that the last endorsement to them be undated and "BLANK" leaving the payee line blank and making the negotiable instrument a sort of "bearer bond" and instrument. As such, ANY party finding or stealing the note can place their name on the payee line, claim ownership of the note, and sell the note to others who may make a demand upon you in the future. As such, you require money to be deposited in an escrow account or with the court in an amount equal to the amount claimed owed on the note, until such missing note is found or upon your death. Notes have a life of their own...

b) if the note was destroyed or lost intentionally [the industry maintains this practice] then they may be trying to hide the beneficial owners and shield them from any assignee liability arising from the actions of the servicer who they hire, supervise and most importantly AUTHORIZE to foreclose upon you. Without the note, since subsequent endorsements are not recorded to avoid payment of taxes and t hide true and real beneficial interests, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY to determine who ever held a rightful interest in the note and who you may have claims or counter claims against and who should be presently before the court as a real party in interest.

c) furthermore, if there are missing assignments of the original note and the assignment went from Lender A to Lender B to Lender D without an intervening assignment from Lender B to Lender C and From Lender C to Lender D, then the note may be void and a legal nullity in your state.

d) It is industry practice to not name the GSE, investor, or real party in interest in foreclosure and to use as a front for the Plaintiff:

i) The very original lender who may or may not even be in business any more or sold their interest in the note long ago, only to have a claim made upon them for repurchase;

ii) A Servicer of even "special servicer" who is acting as an agent for the investors, GSE's or real party in interest, but has no beneficial ownership in the note since they are only being paid to collect and foreclosure by the real parties in interest

iii) A "nominee" such as MERS who has no legal authority to foreclose upon you and do business in your state and who according to their own written documents and verbal assurances NEVER HOLD THE NOTE OR OWN "ANY" BENEFICIAL INTEREST IN THE NOTE!!!!!

e) Notes are pledged, sold, bifurcated, and traded in various derivative transactions like bubblegum baseball cards and their transfers, sales, pledges etc. are not publicly recorded. As such, only POSSESSION OF THE ACTUAL ORIGINAL NOTE can prove the actual owner and holder in due course of the note and who you can MAKE AN OFFER OF PAYMENT TO for purchase of the note by yourself, another family member or partner. You have a right to know the rightful owner of the note so an offer for payment of the note at a discount and at fair market value can be made. If the note has been pledged and encumbered, then that party must be made aware of the foreclosure and your right to negotiate with them a payment and release of the note by you, other lien holders or private parties;

f) Notes are traded often and you need to inspect the physical note to see who the real prior parties were that held and endorsed your note since you may have counter and cross claims against them and need to bring them before the court for the action, since they may have improperly inflated your principal balance, amount owed or escrow account by not applying your payments correctly; adding fees not legally owed by you to the principal balance; miscalculating the interest and not properly amortizing your loan; fraudulent selling your loan or misreporting you on your credit report.

g) Federal Circuit Courts have ruled that the only way to prove the perfection of any security [including promissory note] is by actual possession of the security. Current or PRIOR possession must be proved up.


(4) that a certain balance is due and owing on the note.


4) You must have the MASTER TRANSACTION HISTORIES & GENERAL LEDGERS for the account since a "dump," "summary," or REDACTED RECORD cannot be relied upon to determine the rightful amounts owed by having a complete audit of your account. In order to conduct a proper audit, master records and ALL PRIOR records must be compiled, reviewed, analyzed, and reconciled. IN is NOT YOU RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVE EACH PAYMENT WAS MADE. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY A PAYMENT WAS MADE AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE, INCLUDING YOUR WORD THAT IT WAS MADE. It is the note holder's duty and responsibility to validate the claims being made on the note and the amount owed. If they have the master records or claim that the records of prior servicers are missing, then there is no rightful way for anyone to PROVE UP THE BALANCES AND AMOUNTS THEY CLAIM ARE OWED!!!! Furthermore, you must claim:

a) That the principal balance claimed owed, is not owed, and is the wrong amount.

b) That the loan has not been properly credited and amortized;

c) That the current servicer cannot be relied upon to testify and certify that prior amounts, transactions, credits, debits, charges and fees added by prior servicers were indeed proper and correct and that the account they were transferred was properly amortized and credited. As such, the person holding the ledgers at the prior servicer must come and testify as to the amounts owed on the note.

d) Dumps and summaries of amounts owed cannot be relied upon and only original ledgers and master records and the KEEPER of those records cant testify as to the amounts claimed owed and due.

e) There are many cases and evidence [provided upon request] that clearly demonstrate that servicers and banks miscalculated the rightful amounts owed and due. Evidence includes the Plaintiff's own due diligence reports that need to be provided to demonstrate what the average error rate and amount of average error was when doing quality controls, audits and due diligence on loan pools. Further, the Spitzer mortgage case shows a man that was foreclosed upon after paying off his mortgage 10 years earlier and the lenders kept sending him demands for money not owed. Further cases show that amounts from $2500 to over $100,000 have been wrongly claimed to be owed and due.

 

 

 

8/19/05 at 05:13 PM Moose

 


Something everyone getting involved to fight their own fight in court should at least look at:

 

http://www.jurisdicationary.com

 

The free stuff is very useful and if you subscribe to the monthly mailing you get even more free info from time to time.

 

I can't vouch for the paid-for package because I haven't gone over it, but there are people involved in other consumer issues who think highly of him.

 

There are also some attornies who lambaste him, but given the nature of the species, that may be a good thing!

 

Moose

8/19/05 at 09:10 PM Diane

 


    Correction on the link

 

http://www.jurisdictionary.com/

 


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Hello to all,
I have been in a fight with the supposed "note holder" HSBC for the last 2 years.  Finally it has been remanded to a Federal court in our state.  I have done all of the research myself, and all of the filings myself.  I have been very successful thus far.  My problem is, that I have requested the original promissory note for the last 3 years, and have yet to see it.  I included it in my discovery, but now they are trying to get the case dismissed on the grounds that I have not followed the Federal rules of Procedure.  I am not an attorney.  I need some laws that will cover me in court when it comes to my ignorance on these matters.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I also wonder if my Trust, or my Land Patent will help in any way.
Thanks!
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http://www.suijuris.net/forum/court/1873-discovery-original-note.html?t-1873.html=

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Ed

Brandilyn wrote:
I also wonder if my Trust, or my Land Patent will help in any way.
Thanks!


You're seriously up a creek without a means of locomotion with the trust and land patent stuff the snake oil salespeople are putting out there.

The original signed note challenge doesn't fly if you lived there and made payments. Nobody lives in a house and makes payments on it without signing something. Judges aren't completely stupid.


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Wilbur
Mr. Ed What is your MISSION here? 

 
      You never have any advice...
    
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Wilbur

I meant to say any good advice

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The point though, Ed, is that the note holder is supposed to be able to produce the original. Notarized "copies" obtained from registries don't fly either because the complete original document does not always get recorded - I know, you're all shocked by that statement...

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O -
I'm trying to find out about fingerprints not being on a forged document?

Can you have a document fingerprinted without damaging it?
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Diane (LADY DI)

Very good question. Does your area have any CSI offices they may be able to assist you.

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What is the nature of the document that you are seeking to show has been forged?  A forged promissory note??
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O -

a settlement contract agreement.

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I have reviewed some of Bob's documents, and have have supplied him an affidavit.  Bob's problem is that he has either 3-5 copies of the note what were turned over to him, and the court now has several versions of the Original Documents, (Note and Mortgage).  I forget the number, but 3-5 were copies and each differ and were submitted by affidavit stating they were copies of the "Original" documents.  All three had a "Forged" signature of Bob's on the last page.
 
 Now, after a Motion to Compel was brought by Bob, they produced what is now believed to be the true and correct "Originals".  It contained his signature, now, what does he do with the remained 3-5 copies that Bob received under affidavits that they were true and accurate copies of the Original?  NONE MATCH!
 
Most of us now believe that CBASS copied and sold the mortgage notes many times over.  This very well could be the smoking gun of at least three copies that were resold to others.  There can be no other explanation for the 3-5 copies that were previously provided to Bob, under Affidavits from Litton Loan employee's, and the now "Original" with his signature, while the others have forged signatures.
 
My case is very similar, as I was provided a number of copied documents, and copies of the same document, all different.
A documents expert I have retained, determined from the copies, that my signature and initials were forged, and on several pages, my initials may also have been altered for forged. 
 
Thanks Larry!  Great American Terrorist!  We will never forget you. Thousands will recall your name, and maybe some day soon, the government, state or federal, will catch up with you and Larry Sr! There is growing hope that day is coming sooner now.
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3-5 were copies and each differ and were submitted by affidavit stating they were copies of the "Original" documents. All three had a "Forged" signature of Bob's on the last page.


Boy, what a great can of worms to take fishing with you.  Multiple forgeries to make a document appear to be a "copy" of the original.  The different versions of Bob's signatures raise a question I have never considered: Is Bob holding evidence that these "copies" of notes being stuffed into different loan pools have had the signatures washed?  

If it was a lawyer who submitted forged document(s) into evidence, it could bring Rule 11 sanctions against that lawyer and the court must be notified.  The 3-5 different signatures leans in favor of showing intent to defraud.  Is the Court aware of the different signatures yet?

I assume the forged documents were submitted first and should have some bearing on that party's standing "at the instant" their action was filed, which is the threshold issue here.  Court jurisdiction cannot be invoked with forged documents. Just because they allege to NOW hold the original, does not reverse a forgery charge.  I am still skeptical and would want to view this claimed Original under a microscope to check for broken fibers under the signature.
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I can now tell you that Big Bob, has taken the first step to filing a rule 11 with sanctions against Litton Loan's Lawyer, after the "Order to Compel" Litton's Lawyer responding to the court order, provided yet another set of documents, that don't match and do not comply with the courts order. Litton Lawyers are now under attack in a number of states, and its growing with law suits against them and ethic's claims!  I under stand in New York lawyers for Litton Loan, and CBASS are in some very serious stuff!  
 
Martin Act;  Remember a couple years ago, Some one asked me about it here on the forum?  Well I'm expecting indictments almost any day now!
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Ohio

Hey Bob....kick their A$$ buddy  

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O -

Go get em Bob


Gary Wait wrote:
I can now tell you that Big Bob, has taken the first step to filing a rule 11 with sanctions against Litton Loan's Lawyer, after the "Order to Compel" Litton's Lawyer responding to the court order, provided yet another set of documents, that don't match and do not comply with the courts order. Litton Lawyers are now under attack in a number of states, and its growing with law suits against them and ethic's claims!  I under stand in New York lawyers for Litton Loan, and CBASS are in some very serious stuff!  
 
Martin Act;  Remember a couple years ago, Some one asked me about it here on the forum?  Well I'm expecting indictments almost any day now!

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