No question that Goldman positioned themselves for the down turn in the market, even by a few management personal over riding there entire firms recommendations, possibly some inside information for them do an about change. However I guess what I'm asking was Goldman a direct creditor to CBASS? I can find no information as to who the "Creditors" were for CBASS, but they are mentioned all over the place, but not named, in the Fieldstone filings for the 3.8 million, even in the sale of Litton to Goldman, it appears Goldman is not making one payment! What gives? MGIC is claiming "no income" from the sale of Litton Loan from CBASS?